OFSTED and History Teaching
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Posted 01 March 2003 - 09:05 AM
Any views on why history teachers have performed so well?
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Posted 01 March 2003 - 09:17 AM
#3
Posted 01 March 2003 - 09:46 AM
Secondly, I think that History Teachers are far more pro-active than in other subjects. Look at this forum as an example - we are sharing our best practice daily.
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Guest_andy_walker_*
Posted 01 March 2003 - 11:36 AM
Isn't it disturbing though that ICT and RE should be bottom of the league?
Both surely crucial subjects for very different reasons.
#5
Posted 01 March 2003 - 12:00 PM
This initial view has been reinforced over the last 25 years. The best teachers have been in these subjects. Their passion to make a difference has kept them going through the indifference shown by pupils and even more importantly, fellow members of staff.
Neil McDonald is right to refer to this History Forum. It reflects the passion history teachers have to improve their skills as a teacher. I suspect that somewhere on the web English teachers have a similar forum.
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Guest_andy_walker_*
Posted 01 March 2003 - 12:45 PM
The vast majority of these students had been attracted to teaching because they had a strong desire to improve society.
I couldn't agree more --- but what's happened to RE? Such a great vehicle for multiculturalism and fundamanetally questioning and challenging in nature but evidently badly taught by many..... Still it was only Ofsted's opinion.
#7
Posted 01 March 2003 - 03:59 PM
ICT first. I think the main problem lies in the failure to recruit the best. At a time when ICT was growing in the commercial sector, teaching was left with candidates (not all but a fair few) who knew their stuff but weren't able to teach it. It is all when and good having the subject knowledge but failure to apply it to students in an interesting manner is surely the weakness of the teacher.
RE - One one hand I look at the issues expected to be raised and I feel that RE is a subject that has had alot of the goodness taken out by the governments of the day. quotas on christianity as opposed to Judaism other faiths etc. I have always though that RE should be about developing the consciences of students via the faiths. I'd like to see a development towards philosphy where students can be more free to develop thinking skills.
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#8
Posted 01 March 2003 - 04:11 PM
I certainly see your point - but as the survey has actually taken place since 1988 it may not be the failure to recruit but the inability to recruit. ICT teaching requirements have changed and developed more than any other in the last 15 years and the rapidly changing face of computing means those with expertise and sense wouldn't look twice at teaching.ICT first. I think the main problem lies in the failure to recruit the best. At a time when ICT was growing in the commercial sector, teaching was left with candidates (not all but a fair few) who knew their stuff but weren't able to teach it. It is all when and good having the subject knowledge but failure to apply it to students in an interesting manner is surely the weakness of the teacher.
I'd also bring the issue of inspectors into ICT observations. The expectations and demands that ICT inspectors make seems to vary enormously largely because of the previous point. The lack of curriculum clarity and fundamental constant development of the subject has in some ways hindered ICT in the past. The KS3 ICT policy will fundamentally alter that more than any other KS3 ICT policy.
As History teachers we should be grateful that we have the best subject in the curriculum to teach and thus, if we are being honest, the easiest job to deliver and develop interesting lessons. I'm not putting history teachers' efforts down, but it is important we realise how lucky we are. After all, think of the job science and maths teachers must be faced with.
#9
Posted 01 March 2003 - 06:31 PM
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#10
Posted 01 March 2003 - 06:34 PM
PS yes thats right the Drews aren't the only ones with two History Teachers in the family!!!!!!
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#11
Posted 01 March 2003 - 07:06 PM
Some might suggest a lot of PGCE students (although clearly not those who are concientious enough to frequent this forum) will complete a PGCE for the cash and the additional year in education to decide what to do with themselves. Of course, I wouldn't possibly say that.
It's better in the end to know we are worth more than mere bribes...
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