[Dafydd Humphreys]

Is it possible to save a Flash viewer install to a floppy disk to take into school and install on a PC which has no internet access?

I say this as I'd love to let some Y7s try the Penalty Shootouts tomorrow but my sole PC in my room has no internet neither do any PC in our classrooms...

Can I find the viewer folder/files in my IE folder? Anyone know what I am going on about??!!??

[Dan Moorhouse]

It should be possible although you might need to get your network administrator to do the work for you - upgrading to Flash 6 has been a nightmare at my school. I'm sure one of the more technically minded users of the forum will be able to point you at the exact location of the flash viewer on your own PC. Personally I'll go for the easy route - download it to disk/ CD from macromedia.com. You'll be certain of having the most up to date version then.

I would imagine that it's also feasible to install IE for use offline as well. Simple case then of saving the relevant activities to the network and booting them up locally, assuming that permission etc has been granted. This would enable use of online lessons that combine html and flash (as is often the case with lessons provided by Andrew and Russel).

Your ICT support staff should be able to sort those out for you.

[Andrew Field]

This is a tricky one.

Flash installation is easy if you have a computer connected to the internet. On a school network this invovles logging on as an administrator (i.e. with full rights to change all aspects of the computer) and visit http://www.flash.com. With this done, all users of the PC can then use Flash 6 with ease.

The problems come in the fact that the ICT techs. need to do this on each PC. Thus this means lots of time. On our network at school this involved encouraging the technicians repeatedly and they were happy enough to oblidge. With older versions of Flash this wasn't needed, but the new one allows you to save special 'cookies' to a PC to store data, so extra things have to be installed.

However, and its a big however, it is far more difficult to download a Flash player to an idividual standalone PC. The way Macromedia have set up their website makes it seemingly impossible.

I'll have a good search though.

[Andrew Field]

Not quite impossible though. To install flash on a standalone PC, you need to register for a 'intranet' license. This basically means you fill in a long form and they send you a download link via e-mail.

See: http://www.macromedi...ing/main_3.html

You download the file, save it and then take it to your non-internet connected PC and install it.

Most users of Flash content will be connected to the Internet - I guess this is why they are geared towards web distribution of the player. If you visit a page that requires Flash 5 or better and you don't have it, the page will automatically take you to the Macromedia site to install it.

[Dafydd Humphreys]

Cheers for that Andrew. However this involuntary Luddite is still trumped as the file to download is 4.4mb and I don't have a CD-R on this steam-driven heap of junk!

Ah well. I'm sure that we will one day get online at our school, just as one day you will be able to use an interactive whiteboard in your classroom!

[Stephen Drew]

Dafydd Humphreys, on Dec 3 2002, 12:30 AM, said:

Ah well. I'm sure that we will one day get online at our school!

Correct me if I am wrong, but is not the middle word of your school's title

"TECHNOLOGY"

?????

[Dafydd Humphreys]

I don't want to get technical but its 'Technical'!!!

By that I think they were thinking lathes and jig-saws rather than multimedia laptops and other stuff.!
We entered the 1970s this term - getting new OHPs!

[Andrew Field]

This is ridiculous - and very strange. To download to Flash player off the Internet it takes less than a minute on a standard connection. This would suggest it is about 250-300 kb.

Why on earth is the standalone thing so huge?

Sorry - that looks like that will be it for now.

Quite a few magazine coverdisks used to have a Flash player on them, but I don't know if this would still be true today. As Flash 6 is still quite new, a magazine coverdisk installation of Internet explorer would have an older Flash version anyway.

Sorry for now. That 'projector' format might be worth looking into then.

[Stephen Drew]

Dafydd Humphreys, on Dec 3 2002, 12:35 AM, said:

I don't want to get technical but its 'Technical'!!!

By that I think they were thinking lathes and jig-saws rather than multimedia laptops and other stuff.!
We entered the 1970s this term - getting new OHPs!

Ahh....

[Dafydd Humphreys]

I'll have a look at some cover disks tomorrow. Ah well back to the OHP and the dried up whiteboard markers! Cheers for the assistance.