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#1 AdamCrawte

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 01:00 PM

Does anyone have any opposing interpretations of Oliver Cromwell, especially from more modern historians. Wanting to show my Year 8s the different historians interpretations of Cromwell but I can only really find 2 quotes from the time.

Couple of snappy sentences saying he was an evil man/jolly good chap would be ideal

Many thanks in advance :teacher:
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#2 Andrew Field

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 01:34 PM

I've got a general worksheet that offers a few different interpretations:
http://www.schoolhis...roorvillain.pdf

More suited to your task is this online lesson. It could just be printed off and used as a worksheet resource - obviously not as effective - but it might fit what you are looking for: http://www.schoolhis...ell_lesson.html [Click the link for the Word document].

Alternatively still - if you've got broadband - listen to an expert explaining his views about Oliver Cromwell:
http://localheroes.d...al/cromwell/02/

Hope this is of some help.


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#3 Seb Phillips

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 02:11 PM

When I observed this taught last year, the teacher in question used a Pogues track called 'young ned of the hill'

The chorus is:

A curse upon you Oliver Cromwell
You who raped our Motherland
I hope you're rotting down in hell
For the horrors that you sent
To our misfortunate forefathers
Whom you robbed of their birthright
"To hell or Connought" may you burn in hell tonight

it really worked as a starter, and certainly got across the idea that there are different interpretations of Mr Cromwell!

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 05:52 PM

Surely also:

[Spoken]
The most interesting thing about King Charles the First is that he was five
feet six inches tall at the start of his reign,
but only four foot eight inches tall at the end of it. Because of...

[Sung unless otherwise indicated]

Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England
(Puritan)
Born in 1599 and died in 1658
(September)
Was at first
(Only)
MP for Huntingdon
(But then)
He led the Ironside Cavalry at Marston Moor, in 1664 and won
Then he founded the New Model Army
And praise be! beat the Cavaliers at Nazeby
And the King fled up north like a bat! to the Scots

[Spoken]

But under the terms of John Pym's solemn league and covenant, the Scots
handed King Charles the First, over to...

[Sung u.o.i]

Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England
(And his warts)
Born in 1599 and died in 1658
(September)
But, alas!
(shouted: OY VEY!)
Disagreement then broke out
(spoken: Between)
The Presbyterian Parliament and the military who meant to have an independent
bent and so
The Second Civil War broke out
And the Roundhead ranks faced the Cavaliers at Preston, Lancs
And the King lost again, silly thing
(Stupid git)

[Spoken]

And Cromwell sent Colonel Pride to purge the House of Commons of the
Presbyterian Royalists, leaving behind only the Rump Parliament

[Sung]

Which appointed a High Court at Westminster Hall
To indict Charles the First of - tyranny (ooh)
Charles was sentenced to death, even though her refused to accept
That the court had - jurisdiction (say goodbye to his head)

Poor King Charles laid his head on the block
(spoken: January 1649)
Down came the axe, and...

[Spoken]

In the silence that followed the only sound that could be heard was the
solitary giggle, of...

[Sung, u.o.i]

Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England
(shouted: OLE!)
Born in 1599 and died in 1658
(September)
Then he smashed
(shouted in Irish accent: IRELAND!)
Set up the Commonwealth
(shouted: AND MORE!)
He crushed the Scots at Worcester, and beat the Dutch at sea in 1653 and then
He dissolved the Rump Parliament
And with Lambert's consent wrote the instrument of Government
Under which Oliver was Protector at last - THE END!!!




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#5 Sarah Bamford

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 07:10 PM

There is a textbook somewhere with loads of stuff on 'was Oliver Cromwell a war criminal'. Not back in school until Weds but can check then if it is not urgent (think it is a green book but not sure...)

#6 Sarah Bamford

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 07:21 PM

anyone looking for the sung version of monty python can find it here

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 08:07 PM

I was at a conference last week where I was shown an excellent 'fake' Cromwell website which you can use to challenge pupils use of the internet as a reliable source:

http://www.cromwell-intl.com/oliver/

check out the 'Crom-Fu' fighting techniques!!
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#8 Karen Miller

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 08:56 PM

Thank you everyone. :D We are about to put together a big interpretation piece on Cromwell. This has saved a lot of searching. Not sure how good my singing will be!
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#9 Dom_Giles

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 06:17 AM

SHP This is History series has an excellent student book on "Cromwell - Hero or Villain". There is a good Historiography section and mentions this website http://www.olivercromwell.org/

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 01:56 PM

Alternatively still - if you've got broadband - listen to an expert explaining his views about Oliver Cromwell:
http://localheroes.d...al/cromwell/02/



This is brilliant. A simple idea but extremely useful. I'll be showing it to my students just before they do some extended writing on Cromwell. Cheers

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#11 Andrew Field

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 06:15 PM

Alternatively still - if you've got broadband - listen to an expert explaining his views about Oliver Cromwell:
http://localheroes.d...al/cromwell/02/


This is brilliant. A simple idea but extremely useful. I'll be showing it to my students just before they do some extended writing on Cromwell. Cheers

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The expert is also the person who runs the website you mentioned above. The exercises still need a little tweaking when I find time to complete them - there are still some worksheets to put together and an online note taking tool. The whole Cromwell section offers more: http://localheroes.d.../cromwell/menu/


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Posted 22 February 2005 - 08:40 PM

I've posted some sources which I found on the Internet onto my Shareform here. There's positive and negative ones there, and they're designed to be cut up and laminated for card-sorting activities! :D

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Posted 23 February 2005 - 07:34 AM

anyone looking for the sung version of monty python can find it here

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I would love to here this song but can't seem to get the link to work. Is it just me?? :curse:

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#14 Andrew Field

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Posted 23 February 2005 - 08:17 AM

anyone looking for the sung version of monty python can find it here

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I would love to here this song but can't seem to get the link to work. Is it just me?? :curse:

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The link does work but it is a direct link to an MP3 file. If you are on a slower connection or don't have a program that can play MP3s installed it will look like nothing is happening.

Try right-clicking on the link and saving it to your computer. That should work.


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#15 Karen Miller

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Posted 23 February 2005 - 09:40 AM

Right clicking does work. I downloaded it yesterday and then sang along to the words.
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