[twigs04]

I need to find out what it was lke for women who lived in Nazi Germany. I have already been told that there was a German phrase that roughtly translated to "Children Cooking, Church" however I can not remember how to say this in german and it would be perfect to use as part of my forth coming presentstion.

[Mr R Drew]

you refer to the so called "3K's" - kinder, kirche, kuche


the following pages will help you to add details to your information:

http://www.historyle...azi_Germany.htm

http://www.spartacus...uk/GERwomen.htm


you can test yourself here:

http://www.users.glo...andy/womenG.htm

[Anna]

Other than the traditional ways that women were encouraged into by the Nazis, once war was declared was it at that time the nazi government started conscription for women to join in industry etc? I would appreciate if someone could help clear this up in mind!!

[Mr Moorhouse]

This page gives an overview of some of the changes that the outbreak of war led to for young women and girls in Nazi Germany.

[Anna]

Thanks very much for the link I'm trying to remember that motto for my history, ''Kinder, mutter, kooker'' ?? can't remember how it goes, could someone please correct me!

[Mr Field]

Anna, on Mar 18 2005, 09:24 PM, said:

Thanks very much for the link    I'm trying to remember that motto for my history, ''Kinder, mutter, kooker'' ?? can't remember how it goes, could someone please correct me!

Kinder, Kirche und Küche (Children, Church and Kitchen)

See http://www.schoolhistory.co.uk/year9links/...rmany/women.pdf (.pdf file).

[HistoryDragon15]

Hi,

I've been asked to write about how succesful Nazi policies were for women,

reading these two statements:

"Nazi policy for women was confused"
"Nazi policy for women was a failure"

I have to write whether I agree or disagree with it, yet I am slightly confused because I'm not quite understanding what the statements are saying.
When writing about whether i agree or not what would I include and how would I go about in answering the question?

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thank you.

[Mrs Faithorn]

HistoryDragon15, on Jan 24 2006, 06:20 PM, said:

Hi,

I've been asked to write about how succesful Nazi policies were for women,

reading these two statements:

"Nazi policy for women was confused"
"Nazi policy for women was a failure"

I have to write whether I agree or disagree with it, yet I am slightly confused because I'm not quite understanding what the statements are saying.
When writing about whether i agree or not what would I include and how would I go about in answering the question?

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thank you.

1. "Nazi policy for women was confused" ..... this statement is getting at the fact that Nazi policy towards women was not always consistent/the same. Or rather you are being asked whether you think that their policies were "confused". Here you need to consider all the information that you have about the fundamental policy that what women were 'good for' was staying at home, being good housewives and giving birth to as many Aryan children as possible. You need to look at all the Nazis did that directly affected women and ask yourself if they always did things that tied in with keeping women at home etc. Did they do things that went against the basic policy, or not??

2. "Nazi policy for women was a failure" ..... here you are being asked to assess whether the Nazis actually achieved their aims as far as German women were concerned ie were they successful or not?

I am a bit concerned that this may possibly be a GCSE coursework question and therefore part of your final exam result. If it IS coursework then I cannot say any more. It would be a form of cheating to do so.

Perhaps you could clarify that please?

For more factual information to use then see:
http://www.historyle...azi_Germany.htm
http://www.schoolhis...many/women.html ...... click on the 'Show Hints' button to see the diagram filled in.
http://www.spartacus...uk/GERwomen.htm
http://www.germancul...y/aa080601b.htm .... scroll down past the advertisements for more info.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=...duleId=10005205

[HistoryDragon15]

Thank you for the clarification and I can assure you that this is definitely not for homework instead a piece of homework which I received yesterday. I have already completed by coursework (Haig and Vietnam). Thanks again.

[Mrs Faithorn]

HistoryDragon15, on Jan 24 2006, 08:12 PM, said:

Thank you for the clarification and I can assure you that this is definitely not for homework instead a piece of homework which I received yesterday. I have already completed by coursework (Haig and Vietnam). Thanks again.

Thanks for the quick response.

You originally asked for rather more help than I have given. Do you still need further guidance or are you OK on your own now?

PS. I assume your first use of the word 'homework' is a typo and what you intended to write was "definitely not for coursework".

[HistoryDragon15]

Mrs Faithorn, on Jan 24 2006, 07:16 PM, said:

HistoryDragon15, on Jan 24 2006, 08:12 PM, said:

Thank you for the clarification and I can assure you that this is definitely not for homework instead a piece of homework which I received yesterday. I have already completed by coursework (Haig and Vietnam). Thanks again.

Thanks for the quick response.

You originally asked for rather more help than I have given. Do you still need further guidance or are you OK on your own now?

PS. I assume your first use of the word 'homework' is a typo and what you intended to write was "definitely not for coursework".

No problem
Yes I would like a bit more help with the second statement, I know many women disagreed with the Nazi policy, yet some abided (spelling mistake?) by it. However I am not sure as to how and why it would be a failure.

PS. You assumed correctly! I do that quite a lot as you'll probably see in future posts

[Mrs Faithorn]

"Nazi policy for women was a failure"

In order to assess whether the policy was a failure you need first of all to consider what the aims were (and I assume you know that?)

A good answer will give a balanced answer:

• firstly point out the policy's successes (eg look at the number of women who left or were forced out of employment, the figures for the birth rate, any evidence that German women accepted the propaganda and supported Nazi policies/joined Nazi women's organisations etc)
  
• then show that not all women accepted the policies and provide what hard evidence you can of opposition.
  
• finally, reach an overall conclusion of your own ie "it was broadly successful/it was a total failure" - whatever your conclusion is.(with explanation)

I think the web links I gave should help you out on factual info if you need it.

[Historygirl9]

I have to do a presentation on women during Nazi rules and expectations. I have decided to divide the presentation into 4 main sections:
- Why Hitler needed control of women
- How he gained control (pressure from propaganda - the Three K's + offering money and awarding medals to those women who had the most children)
- Explore any resistance from women to the campaigns
- How did the coming of war then change the expectations of women once more - jobs again

I would appreciate any good sites or information. Thanks.
HistoryGirl9

[MrJohnDClare]

Some really good an interesting materials:
Starter site as always: HistoryLearning, or here.
Spidergram

Brief, but interesting site here

There is a really good powerpoint here, but BE CAREFUL - some of the slides are deliberately wrong, and expect you to correct them.


Your biggest problem is that I cannot find anything on the web between these rather simple introductory webpages, and some very detailed academic sites and google-books:

If I were doing GCSE, to try to 'go deeper', rather than cruise the web, I would try to get hold of the Longman Seminar Study book on Women in Nazi Germany by Jill Stephenson

But, if you have the time and the ability:

A detailed study of some specific women (or see this Google book)

I thought this book on fashions in Nazi germany looked fascinating, especially this chapter.

This google book looks closest to what you want.

There is an interesting Q&A session with Cate Haste - the experton Nazi Women - here - try to gte a copy of her book Nazi Women from your library.


Nazi women is a really vibrant area of research at the moment
Read this page ONLY.

[Historygirl9]

Thank you very much for these resources - the presentation is coming along now - just got to practise presenting now!!!!!!