QUOTE (the lynx2 @ Oct 12 2009, 08:33 PM)

I also, when doing this subject last year heard something about one of the fortified sections of german trench to the north was broken into and could have been taken with reinforcements but a mix of poor communication (runners were not always reliable and could also be killed) and stubborn leadership took away this advantage.
The French during this battle had more success but could not press further onwards until the British covering thier flanks.
As for cause i also remember something about German supply routes in the area being a secondary target, but the main was, as said, to draw German forces away from Verdun.
Well remembered. You may be referring to the Schwaben Redoubt, near Thiepval, where the success of the Ulster Division was not reinforced, partly because of inflexible (or 'stubborn') behaviour on the part of a British general. This is shown in the recent DVD 'The Somme: Defeat into Victory'.
Your point about the difficulty of communicating is also very important. Radios were unreliable, telephone wires were often cut, runners were a slow form of communication and could be killed, visual signals were often misunderstood.
Remember, the French had been supposed to contribute more to the Somme offensive, however Verdun led to the French effort being reduced. You are right, the more experienced French achieved more in the early phase of the battle.
Finally, the Somme did have a point, or indeed several. One was to help the French at Verdun which was achieved. Another was to capture the German railway link at Roulers, which was not.